Joel was originally on the podcast in November 2015.

Now it’s time to catch up on the intervening 8 years. As he’s gone from a single solo copywriter to being a married father… and founder of a company.

A freelancing side project grew into a company with seven figure revenue. But is the grass greener? Could he have done it alone?

From freelance to founder -Did being his own boss set him up to be a good boss of many?

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